kleck45 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Hi, I am a student at The University of Florida in the athletic training program. I have become interested inthe PA field, and would like to go straight into a program once I graduate. I do not have any HCE, but I have shadowed a few PA's, have been involved in clubs and volunteering. My biggest question is: would the hours lyfrom me doing clinicals in my program count as HCE? I am directely involved in the care of the athletes I work with, so I assumed it would, but was not sure. Any insight is appreciated :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Hi, I am a student at The University of Florida in the athletic training program. I have become interested inthe PA field, and would like to go straight into a program once I graduate. I do not have any HCE, but I have shadowed a few PA's, have been involved in clubs and volunteering. My biggest question is: would the hours lyfrom me doing clinicals in my program count as HCE? I am directely involved in the care of the athletes I work with, so I assumed it would, but was not sure. Any insight is appreciated :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Hi, I am a student at The University of Florida in the athletic training program. I have become interested inthe PA field, and would like to go straight into a program once I graduate. I do not have any HCE, but I have shadowed a few PA's, have been involved in clubs and volunteering. My biggest question is: would the hours lyfrom me doing clinicals in my program count as HCE? I am directely involved in the care of the athletes I work with, so I assumed it would, but was not sure. Any insight is appreciated :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliss929 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It likely depends on the school, but I have read on a few websites that clinical training, specifically, is not considered HCE. From Duke's website: The following types of experience are NOT accepted toward the 1,000 hours of patient care experience: PA or physician observer or shadow, non-clinical research assistant positions, student clinical experience (student nurse, student EMT, student athletic trainer, or other health care student), student "intern" experiences, candy striper or junior volunteer positions, CPR or ACLS instructor, wilderness medicine instructor, patient transporter, pharmaceutical representative, ski patroller, life guard, aerobics instructor, unit clerk, insurance clerk, medical secretary or other clerical positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliss929 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It likely depends on the school, but I have read on a few websites that clinical training, specifically, is not considered HCE. From Duke's website: The following types of experience are NOT accepted toward the 1,000 hours of patient care experience: PA or physician observer or shadow, non-clinical research assistant positions, student clinical experience (student nurse, student EMT, student athletic trainer, or other health care student), student "intern" experiences, candy striper or junior volunteer positions, CPR or ACLS instructor, wilderness medicine instructor, patient transporter, pharmaceutical representative, ski patroller, life guard, aerobics instructor, unit clerk, insurance clerk, medical secretary or other clerical positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliss929 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It likely depends on the school, but I have read on a few websites that clinical training, specifically, is not considered HCE. From Duke's website: The following types of experience are NOT accepted toward the 1,000 hours of patient care experience: PA or physician observer or shadow, non-clinical research assistant positions, student clinical experience (student nurse, student EMT, student athletic trainer, or other health care student), student "intern" experiences, candy striper or junior volunteer positions, CPR or ACLS instructor, wilderness medicine instructor, patient transporter, pharmaceutical representative, ski patroller, life guard, aerobics instructor, unit clerk, insurance clerk, medical secretary or other clerical positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yeah that is what I have noticed, it seems to be on a school to school basis. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yeah that is what I have noticed, it seems to be on a school to school basis. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yeah that is what I have noticed, it seems to be on a school to school basis. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorRRT Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorRRT Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorRRT Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 8, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. agree with this statement. you need 2000 hrs for many quality programs so work for AT LEAST 1 yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 8, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. agree with this statement. you need 2000 hrs for many quality programs so work for AT LEAST 1 yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted May 8, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2013 Clinical hours generally do not count towards a program's HCE requirement. Why the rush? Take a few years off, gain the experience as an athletic trainer and then apply. agree with this statement. you need 2000 hrs for many quality programs so work for AT LEAST 1 yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Thanks, I'm not sure if this is kind of the same thing, but if I got a graduate assistant position, do those hours count towards HCE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleck45 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Thanks, I'm not sure if this is kind of the same thing, but if I got a graduate assistant position, do those hours count towards HCE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelle Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Yes, as a certified athletic trainer, your hours do count toward HCE. Your are a practicing ATC at that point- you just happen to be in grad school at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahb Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Since some schools count it and some don't, should I still list student athletic training under HCE on CASPA? Or elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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