Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted July 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2020 significant shortages in PC and non-PC specialties even adjusting for expansion of APC growth. AAMC notes it will be necessary to expand APC responsibility. I think their expansion numbers for NPs and PAs, both seem to be double the numbers we have today, which would have NPs at near 500k and us at about 250k, still far behind them. i think this also shows we are going to need more residency trained PAs given the dearth of specialty trained physicians, EM specifically noted to be suffering significant shortages https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/933068?nlid=136126_544&src=WNL_mdplsfeat_200630_mscpedit_emed&uac=290353DJ&spon=45&impID=2441833&faf=1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACali Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 We need Full Practice Authority in primary care for experienced PA and name change asap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 3, 2020 Administrator Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 2:55 PM, PACali said: We need Full Practice Authority in primary care for experienced PA and name change asap. You know what preaching to the choir is, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 *heads over to SDN with popcorn to wait...* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkertdm Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I had three people yesterday ask when they were going to see the doctor. I told them that I was the only one on site, an md was starting in two weeks, they were more than welcome to wait. I have plenty of patients who are actually happy with my care, many of them followed me from another clinic. It was a bit disheartening because I feel like I’m wasting my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope2PA Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, thinkertdm said: I had three people yesterday ask when they were going to see the doctor. I told them that I was the only one on site, an md was starting in two weeks, they were more than welcome to wait. I have plenty of patients who are actually happy with my care, many of them followed me from another clinic. It was a bit disheartening because I feel like I’m wasting my time. I’m sure many will think I am way to pessimistic, but based on limited public knowledge of various “providers”, I very soon expect it to be” When can I see the doctor or Nurse practitioner? I’d prefer to not see an assistant”. I also realize this is preaching the choir, but hope some of the directors pay attention to the choir get their crap together and actually do something about the absolute need for real title change and staged independence! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 11, 2020 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, thinkertdm said: I had three people yesterday ask when they were going to see the doctor. Wow. I haven't had a single one in years. I'm so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Before retiring the last one I can recall would’ve been some ED mom wanting a plastic surgeon to close a forehead/chin lac on either herself or her child. That would’ve been about 16 years ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACali Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 5:48 PM, rev ronin said: Wow. I haven't had a single one in years. I'm so sorry. Sometimes that question would only pop up in the front desk and you won't even notice. Just ask your medical assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted July 12, 2020 Administrator Share Posted July 12, 2020 15 hours ago, PACali said: Sometimes that question would only pop up in the front desk and you won't even notice. Just ask your medical assistant. That's absolutely true. It's the front desk and MAs jobs to make sure people know they're seeing a PA, what that means, and that they have a choice to reschedule. I did have one patient walk out of Group Health exam room before I even got in, because they'd been moved from a sick MD to my schedule for the day, when they had specifically waited to talk to an MD, not a PA. But that was 6+ years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPA28 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 That article is BS -- there is no doctor shortage. There is a poor distribution of doctors -- they don't want to work in rural areas. Doctors and PAs are getting laid off by the thousands, and now we're supposed to believe there's a shortage? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I have always said, there is NOT a shortage of Providers in this country....there is a shortage of places for them to work. Because we live in a "for profit" medical system, if your clinic is not rolling in the big bucks then it is shut down. It doesn't matter if the people will not have access to medical care. It's all about the money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACali Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/14/2020 at 1:55 PM, Cideous said: I have always said, there is NOT a shortage of Providers in this country....there is a shortage of places for them to work. Because we live in a "for profit" medical system, if your clinic is not rolling in the big bucks then it is shut down. It doesn't matter if the people will not have access to medical care. It's all about the money. One way to decrease the shortage of places to work, is to allow PA to have full practice authorities and to start their own practice. Preaching the Choir again lol! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cideous Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 ^^^ And the choir sings Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted July 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2020 Few thoughts. those close to or over retirement age docs are way more likely to retire right now we could fill in pcp fields, own practices, run the show with independent practice. I.e. 5 plus yrs experience or fellowship Change costs $$$$$$ join AAPA. Your state agency. Call your reps. Write letters. if nothing else join your state agency and send them 20$ a month to the PAC. (Come on any PA should be able to swing this). You don’t even have to do anything, just donate to those who are trying. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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