mikespa12 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Why would anyone work at NYP in NYC? Was offered a nonnegotiable job at NYP 30K lower than my current job despite having 10+ years of experience in Surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCPAC Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Lol I used to work there. Good job fresh out of school to have as a resume booster but other than that you’re just a number. They want you to feel grateful for the name and feel like that means they can underpay you in exchange. I left and to this day one of my best friends still works there as a PA and I take home $45k more than he does with 3yrs less experience than him. I will say, they do acknowledge PA presence but it isn’t with paySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) It's an academic hospital with a big name. Anyone that works there must feel "privileged" to work there, which makes the salary cut worth it...barf. It's a status thing. Edited June 25, 2020 by mgriffiths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespa12 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, mgriffiths said: It's an academic hospital with a big name. Anyone that works there must feel "privileged" to work there, which makes the salary cut worth it...barf. It's a status thing. 3 hours ago, NYCPAC said: Lol I used to work there. Good job fresh out of school to have as a resume booster but other than that you’re just a number. They want you to feel grateful for the name and feel like that means they can underpay you in exchange. I left and to this day one of my best friends still works there as a PA and I take home $45k more than he does with 3yrs less experience than him. I will say, they do acknowledge PA presence but it isn’t with pay Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The worst part of this is when she said its not negotiable despite having years of experience in that specific field of surgery. According to them, they go by a scale. I can't imagine what a new grad PA would make over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCPAC Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 7yrs ago as a new grad on the IM Hospitalist PA svc working nights I made like $93k. Doubt it’s any better now lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespa12 Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 2:01 PM, NYCPAC said: 7yrs ago as a new grad on the IM Hospitalist PA svc working nights I made like $93k. Doubt it’s any better now lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk For such a high cost of living place, i'm actually quite surprised. I guess as long as new grads or people take it, they'll continue with this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kang1208 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 NYC is too saturated, living expense is high. Like anywhere in NYC hospitals, PAs is just a number...very replaceable. Problem is, there is a hiring freeze due to hospital revenue deficits. Not sure if anywhere across NYC hospitals are hiring right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespa12 Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 11:48 AM, kang1208 said: NYC is too saturated, living expense is high. Like anywhere in NYC hospitals, PAs is just a number...very replaceable. Problem is, there is a hiring freeze due to hospital revenue deficits. Not sure if anywhere across NYC hospitals are hiring right now. They are def hiring. Might not be the best of times to find a new job tho. New grads will suffer tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb315 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 A few of my classmates took jobs with NYP after we graduated last year. One of my close friends started at 100k in ortho-spine, which was originally supposed to be 95k but it got bumped up just before she started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, vb315 said: A few of my classmates took jobs with NYP after we graduated last year. One of my close friends started at 100k in ortho-spine, which was originally supposed to be 95k but it got bumped up just before she started. Good grief...I'm not a new grad, and wasn't when I took the job (I've lost count, but somewhere around 4 years of PA experience when I accepted) but in Southern MI I make $120k base salary in general orthopedics with a pretty sweet setup - no call, minimal rounding, office schedule isn't ridiculous (8-4pm and I'm out the door by 4:15pm EVERY DAY), surgery days done by 2-3pm unless there's an add-on from a trauma (pretty rare and only occurs if doc is on call, I don't even have to stay and assist, but I always do), zero weekends or nights, etc. I can imagine in NY that the low salary (with a significantly higher cost of living) is coupled with a significantly more demanding schedule...and honestly I don't even see living in NYC as a perk, that would be a negative to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespa12 Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mgriffiths said: Good grief...I'm not a new grad, and wasn't when I took the job (I've lost count, but somewhere around 4 years of PA experience when I accepted) but in Southern MI I make $120k base salary in general orthopedics with a pretty sweet setup - no call, minimal rounding, office schedule isn't ridiculous (8-4pm and I'm out the door by 4:15pm EVERY DAY), surgery days done by 2-3pm unless there's an add-on from a trauma (pretty rare and only occurs if doc is on call, I don't even have to stay and assist, but I always do), zero weekends or nights, etc. I can imagine in NY that the low salary (with a significantly higher cost of living) is coupled with a significantly more demanding schedule...and honestly I don't even see living in NYC as a perk, that would be a negative to me Yeah, most people are moving out of NYC to jersey, Connecticut and PA. PA as a state is notoriously lower than NYC as well. Can't win. I know new grads would be happy with anything above 90k, wayyyy under the market though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Unfortunately, "the market" is what someone is willing to pay to find someone to fill the position. If others accept lower numbers for whatever the reason that IS the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb315 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 hours ago, mgriffiths said: Good grief...I'm not a new grad, and wasn't when I took the job (I've lost count, but somewhere around 4 years of PA experience when I accepted) but in Southern MI I make $120k base salary in general orthopedics with a pretty sweet setup - no call, minimal rounding, office schedule isn't ridiculous (8-4pm and I'm out the door by 4:15pm EVERY DAY), surgery days done by 2-3pm unless there's an add-on from a trauma (pretty rare and only occurs if doc is on call, I don't even have to stay and assist, but I always do), zero weekends or nights, etc. I can imagine in NY that the low salary (with a significantly higher cost of living) is coupled with a significantly more demanding schedule...and honestly I don't even see living in NYC as a perk, that would be a negative to me Sounds like a great job! They definitely take advantage of the new grads who want to move to the city. Another one of my close friends from PA school took a job in Jersey City (or somewhere close) as a NICU PA and she started at 110k. I don't know the specifics of either of my friends' daily schedules, call, etc, and the salary figure isn't the end-all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikespa12 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 1:30 AM, vb315 said: Sounds like a great job! They definitely take advantage of the new grads who want to move to the city. Another one of my close friends from PA school took a job in Jersey City (or somewhere close) as a NICU PA and she started at 110k. I don't know the specifics of either of my friends' daily schedules, call, etc, and the salary figure isn't the end-all. It's a tough place for new grads in NJ. NYC is a dime a dozen. Hence more new grads in NYC and lower pay I suppose. Same with Philly. COVID placed a hiring freeze on every company out there. Hard to negotiate during these times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjohpac Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I was a new grad 5 years ago. The offer was for 15k less than what they offered at another NYC major hospital. I didn't even bother going to the 2nd interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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