newgrad Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hey sorry to post yet another job offer but I really could use your help. I just graduated last and like most new grads I had some difficulty finding a position with a lack of real world work experience. I initially took a nocturnal hospitalist. I really enjoyed my in-patient medicine rotation and thought taking this position would be a good place to start but after reading posts about similar jobs in the same field of medicine from other users I think I should have took another job. I work the typical 7on/7off nights so basically covering floor calls and doing admissions from the ER. Pretty much my entire job. I have read about the horrors of most new grads being taken advantage of and overworked but I am at the opposite end of the spectrum. I am extremely bored and tired of this job. The staff is friendly but I find the work dull. I don't mind nights but I just can't find the joy I had when I initially started. During my rotations while I was in school I actually found my inpatient medicine rotation to be the most challenging and exciting. The rotation was during the day so perhaps that was the part I enjoyed the most. Salary is 85k with health/dental/vision supplemented, 403b with 2% match, 1500 CME, 3weeks PTO. Salaried position. No bonuses. I have been here for about 5 months now. Should I just stick it out for a year and see if it gets better or just start looking for a new position? I think that since I specialized so early I don't think I can sell my limited skills to another specialty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I don't feel like a nocturnist is "to specialized" especially when compared to like an ortho spine or say a deem job What didn't you like about the job? Besides boring Only reason I ask is cause I'm graduating July 30 and have a site visit/interview at my old hospital where I was an Emt for a Nocturnist position. I've had 2 phone interviews with the hospital talent guy and the the medical director of the Hospitalist team and from those I really think the position would be fun. It's basically like yours, the night shift PA is in charge of all ER admissions which he says can be 5 to as many as 25/night, but that no one can do 25 in a night. Then we'd merely try and line them and and get them tee'd up so to speak for the morning crew. Pay is similar but with a new night diff % most likely coming into play it'd be near 100k for 3-12s as a new grad. Did you just not like being alone? Or redundant admissions? Not a night person? Anyone can feel free to chime in and give me advice as well. I'd much appreciate it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I don't feel like a nocturnist is "to specialized" especially when compared to like an ortho spine or say a deem job What didn't you like about the job? Besides boring Only reason I ask is cause I'm graduating July 30 and have a site visit/interview at my old hospital where I was an Emt for a Nocturnist position. I've had 2 phone interviews with the hospital talent guy and the the medical director of the Hospitalist team and from those I really think the position would be fun. It's basically like yours, the night shift PA is in charge of all ER admissions which he says can be 5 to as many as 25/night, but that no one can do 25 in a night. Then we'd merely try and line them and and get them tee'd up so to speak for the morning crew. Pay is similar but with a new night diff % most likely coming into play it'd be near 100k for 3-12s as a new grad. Did you just not like being alone? Or redundant admissions? Not a night person? Anyone can feel free to chime in and give me advice as well. I'd much appreciate it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 85k for a nocturnist position is crazy. You should be making 100 at the least and probably more in the 110-130 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 100k for a PA with experience maybe, New Grads they put us at the lowest end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted July 4, 2015 Moderator Share Posted July 4, 2015 100k for a PA with experience maybe, New Grads they put us at the lowest end nocturnist positions typically pay 10K + more/yr. I agree if it was day shifts it should be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 yeah I have a site visit in august for a nocturnist position thats 3-12s a month, 1900-0700, and was told that base pay for new grads is 80-85k, +15% bump for night diff, so around 92-97K starting for a new grad, which is quite good for 13 shifts a month, and a new grad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 yeah I have a site visit in august for a nocturnist position thats 3-12s a month, 1900-0700, and was told that base pay for new grads is 80-85k, +15% bump for night diff, so around 92-97K starting for a new grad, which is quite good for 13 shifts a month, and a new grad. That pay is awful. What area are you in? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 It is in Colorado. From the AAPA salary report anywhere in the U.S. New grads are 80-90k in any specialty. I am all for higher wages but I feel that you all have experience and I expect if I had 1-3 years of experience or 10+ I should make a lot more than this, but we are new grads. With 0 experience. So places that start on a tiered pay start new grads at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick87 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I don't feel like a nocturnist is "to specialized" especially when compared to like an ortho spine or say a deem job What didn't you like about the job? Besides boring Only reason I ask is cause I'm graduating July 30 and have a site visit/interview at my old hospital where I was an Emt for a Nocturnist position. I've had 2 phone interviews with the hospital talent guy and the the medical director of the Hospitalist team and from those I really think the position would be fun. It's basically like yours, the night shift PA is in charge of all ER admissions which he says can be 5 to as many as 25/night, but that no one can do 25 in a night. Then we'd merely try and line them and and get them tee'd up so to speak for the morning crew. Pay is similar but with a new night diff % most likely coming into play it'd be near 100k for 3-12s as a new grad. Did you just not like being alone? Or redundant admissions? Not a night person? Anyone can feel free to chime in and give me advice as well. I'd much appreciate it :) Do you have someone to consult with if something throws you for a loop? As a new grad, I would highly recommend that (even if you were a superstar in school and on rotations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradyg007 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 It would be an MD from 1900-0700 as well with me and a swing PA from 1200-0000. So I'd have the MD for questions and issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediMike Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 That's brutal pay. You interested in relocating? Big group up in the PNW is hiring new grad nocturnists at $115k and actually bumping that up this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 That's brutal pay. You interested in relocating? Big group up in the PNW is hiring new grad nocturnists at $115k and actually bumping that up this year... I tried. Some folks are just happy to be underpaid. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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